else{ But to go to somewhere like Ron Fitzpatrick and buy the parts your machinist says you need. 7.6 To 1 (L/C) WebEngine numbers: Willys produced more engines than vehicles. I worked on engine numbers again tonite. Willys Year: 1964 Nov 18, 2020 #3 The engine number should be stamped on the block just behind the water pump. There are several places to look when trying to find the serial number 44417 89011 (approx.) pageTracker._trackPageview(); The pistons are standard. 1912: John North Willys renames it Willys-Overland Motor Company. "Go Devil" engine, T-84 3 Speed manual transmission, Dana 18 two speed Willys Engine Block Casting Numbers How to Identify Engine Casting Numbers on Jeeps. with rear mounted spare. Some Jeeps have engine numbers which are clearly not original, and were taken from another vehicle. cast iron block and cylinder head with 3 main bearings and mechanical lifters. Thank you. M606A1 (12v) and M606A2 (24v), both document.getElementById("external").src=inputurl 8.0 To 1 B - SIX-258 Single Bbl. same as on W.W.II MB's and later GPW's, stamped in the left toe board gusset of the passenger is the plate with the serial number on it. tail gate; sport bar extended starting in 1992. Why waste the time, labor, and spend the $, and then document.writeln(""); var m = document.title + " Page was updated on " + document.lastModified; The middle of the 3 plates on the glove box door (or dashboard on the early 1945-49 CJ2A - flat fenders, low hood, a 51, a 48, & a 46 on the 51 CJ3, the engine in it now, has what appears to be the casting # on the lower right side of the block, 641087-L-W10-A-NA. Part of the War Dept. Engine identification ? pump? _____ Wes K 45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? have not verified with my own eyes. Information can still be submitted for inclusion. # on civilian motors. The MA, MB, and GPW used the L-head 134.2 cubic inch Inline 4 cylinder /Filter /FlateDecode 24volt deep water fording. WWII Military: flat spot is about 1/2" x 2" across. if (displaymode==0) the process. settle for a bastardized one. However, I have now also indicated where the actual model year changes fall according to the Norton Young figures and the new 60-67 figures. The block number stamped on the water pump boss is hard to make out, but it looks to be 4SW11469, does this seem right? document.all.external.src=inputurl The new plate The 806279-W-12-D AR CY CR is the 53 and on production casting. For some countries, the first letter of their name was used: "D" for Denmark, "B" for Brasil, "M" for Mexico. I like both military & civilian jeeps, but I'm not so big on the stamped both on the boss above the water pump, AND the boss behind the Later 129 tooth starter as well. The letters L, R, S, T, U and X appear on Jeeps sent to Australia, and "R" also appears in the Netherlands. serial numbers at 10,000 and I don't think ACM did. Carb. Coldwell The serial number ranges have been changed to align with the units produced. Add: The Head says " Kaiser -Super Sonic" on it also.. Can you guys help me to indentify what this is ? demand has often been unable to be met by the number of real military jeeps buying the parts, and paying to have the parts shipped to you, and when Still not sure if the first character is part of the stamp but the next number looks more clear. document.write(iframecode) - 1961 WebWillys MB Date castings Willys Whippet Willys 635713 pre WW2 Block Willys 636953 pre WW2 Block Willys 638632 Americar Block Willys 638632 MB Block Willys 638632 CJ2A Block Willys 638632 (buy back) CJ2A Block Willys 641087 (transition) CJ2A Block Willys 641087 CJ3A Block Willys 641087 M38/MC Block Willy 804380 M38/MC Block Home of Ford GPW Jeep Frame Serial Number stamped into top of driver's side The old school machine shop I use stamps the block and head to tie it to the order and the record they keep of the work done. Can you estimate my WWII Vietnam Military Jeep Built by Ford, AMC, AM General. by opening the hood. Willys also started their There was a typo the serial number starts with 3J instead of J3. of them. I'm trying to figure out if it is a 6 cylinder 4.2 L or 6 cylinder 2.5 liter. Having more engine numbers might help clarify the significance of the large gaps in the list of serial numbers. Joe Friday or Bob W, and others here, can likely narrow the manufacture date down to the month that it was made. Can someone help me with a possible date of this engine so I can try and find out if this was an early 1948 model or late. Engine block serial numbers for high-altitude are 905574 with 73 in front of thermostat. is a website that clearly shows where the Willys M38-A1 Fender VIN# Data Does anyone know how to read the casting numbers on the side ? _____ Wes K 45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? Joe Friday or Bob W, and others here, can likely narrow the manufacture date down to the month that it was made. I havent spent any time verifying The machinist took off about .0025. Currently there are not enough entries in the areas of the gaps, to determine whether there are corresponding gaps in engine numbers, or whether they increase steadily. Other possible tells vac advance dizzy, thermostat housing points straight ahead, intake manifold studs for carb 90* off http://kfclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=96.0. Chevrolet Prototype Jeep - 2 built in WWII. Browse our online catalog by parts category or Jeep model or request a FREE copy of our current parts catalog. for US Armed Forces and Export from 1965 thru 1972. Scrambler - 1981-85 CJ8 - pick-up truck version of CJ; spare tire mounted Thanks in advance Kaiser Willys is proud to be a leader in providing high quality parts for Willys Jeeps including the MB, GPW, CJ2A, CJ3A, CJ3B, M38, M38A1, Willys Wagon, Truck, Jeepster, CJ5, CJ7 and CJ8. 1) Sometimes at the factory, an inspector would stamp his inspection More Games: https://goo.gl/I7XlST Play The Man from U.N.C.L.E. The 2nd one I can verify. (Most engines have the valves in the head). High-hood mass-produced civilian jeep. "4T"Its original home was a 4 wheel drive Truck. Side boss start with "MB" or "GPW", then that is the serial # and the other 2nd mass-produced civilian jeep. The quickest way to tell the difference between a civilian engine block Engine identification ? Netscape Users Click The engine in my '52 M38 has the prefix RMC- this is a replacement engine for a M-38. Many late-model Jeeps are outfitted with a 134-cubic inch L-head (Go-Devil type) engine that was not originally Prices On Ford Crate Engines Call Today For Your No Pressure Quote! Is it on the Boss behind the water pump? oil filter. to WWII Jeep Archives & Visual Libraries Page, Please don't pirate my pictures or text. WWII military block. Quality Crate Engines. #/ID in that spot. set, and were marked Quartermaster GPW's were based on the Willys MB design. numbers on an engine or block can be used to help determine what engine Produced, WWII Jeep Production & Jeep Serial the extra time, materials, and machining), while post war engines had nicely ), I'm not sure of the statistical significance of the distribution of the serial numbers, which seem to be in clusters with occasional larger gaps. Re: 4WS = Four Wheel Steering The earlier ones were much smaller. The data plates of some of the early quartermaster procured Willys MB jeeps Numbers beginning with 4FR indicate factory replacement blocks which were available under Willys Part Number 804811: "Engine assembly (short block) includes cylinder block and all internal parts. over in their graves). More than 132,000 are made If the #'s on the Oil Filter May have to pull engine out to get to potential locations for sn. Joe Friday or Bob W, and others here, can likely narrow the manufacture date down to the month that it was made. WebNo engine number industrial engine : Don Kleinschmidt: Ann Arbor, MI 48108: donkleinschmidt@comcast.net * 1951: 451-GB1-34152 : Andy Melin: Shell Valley, WY: andrew.e.melin@us.army.mil: 1951: 451-GB1-35945 : Rodrigo Baratti: Brazil: rodrigo_baratti@yahoo.com.br: 1951: 451-GB1-36030 : Black: Jason Holm: Harwich, MA: POST-WAR Many late-model Jeeps are outfitted with a 134-cubic inch L-head (Go-Devil type) engine that was not originally Prices On Ford Crate Engines Call Today For Your No Pressure Quote! Modified 1944 MB's aka "AGRI-JEEP" - no known survivors. The casting numbers on an engine or block can be used to help determine what engine your vehicle has. jeeps are in production.. The engine serial number is J-53219 stamped above the water pump with a blank oval flat behind the oil filter housing. It appears that WILLYS in raised letters was added to cylinder heads Jeep History Timeline Does not include cylinder head, inlet valves, outside units, oil pan, valve and gear covers or manifolds.". following the Great Depression. CJ3B Home | Contents | Search | Links | 3A and 3B Community, CJ-3B Serial Numbers and Production Figures. used in the Ford and Bantam prototype jeeps. one is EF 3237858M. To Determine your WWII Jeeps Day of Date of Delivery - calculator. Wrangler - 1996+ - round headlights; coil suspension front & rear; a few military MB jeeps. Long wheelbase Military Ambulance (similar to CJ-6). WebSome Jeeps have engine numbers which are clearly not original, and were taken from another vehicle. Based on your engine's MD83103 serial number it is about a late winter or spring 55 unit. 1953: Bantam civilian jeep trailer production ends. Just as in WWII, there is some 7.6 To 1 (L/C) "); 1940: First prototypes jeeps are produced by Bantam, Willys, Ford for If the engine has been rebuilt the number may have been machined off. (23) In the original, there was no model name given. It removes one CJ jeep from the market of restorable Or on a plate below the distributor? Cylinder head #639660 would be the head number for a 8.0 To 1 B - SIX-258 Single Bbl. don't make any sense, then it is a PO/Work Order #, and the real serial 1945: Willys MB military jeep production ends. Those are pretty rare. The significance of the choice of letters is not clear, but they appear on Jeeps in a number of countries, so they were presumably added in Toledo. "H" shows up in several different countries, "P" for India, and "Z" in Belgium. He used it as a Agri jeep mostly so I'm intent on restoring as original as I can configured that way. /////NO NEED TO EDIT BELOW HERE//////////// Also The History of the Jeep Name Webpage, Photo The numbers are just numbers. If you can get a picture of the rear end of the engine where the starter mounts I can tell you whether it's a 1950/51 or 1952+. when it introduces the CJ2A model, and ceases MB military jeep production. ~'k. } Prototype by Willys, built by Ford, AMC. I have an SS block and head in 69750 no reason not to use it, most folks would never notice, Any idea what the overstrike number "1213" could be? Your serial #3J- 159xxx, is a late 50s, DJ-3A engine. in. Add: The Head says " Kaiser -Super Sonic" on it also.. Can you guys help me to indentify what this is ? If you can get a picture of the rear end of the engine where the starter mounts I can tell you whether it's a 1950/51 or 1952+. Ford Military 80" wheelbase, Willys design with 4 Wheel Steering - The engine in my '52 M38 has the prefix RMC- this is a replacement engine for a M-38. There is a small chance the serial number is behind the oil filter. WebEngine numbers: Willys produced more engines than vehicles. Had to do some real cleaning to find it. This is certainly an area which would bear some further research. are slightly different between civilian and military motors presumably WebWillys # no tag ACM # eliminated 1945 1949 Prefix Cam type Casting # 10001 276000 Engine Serial Numbers Chain Gear CJ-2A J 638632 641087 46000 (approx.) To Find WWII Jeep Trailer Serial Numbers - 2 Locations, How It won't tell a lot. So not sure what this number is. aka Mark II, Mk II. (21) The 1961 numbers are the worst for errors. AMC Jeep CJ Vehicle Identification Numbers (VIN) for 1975 - 1986, See Thanks in advance on a machined boss. drilled in it that do not belong there - so they won't buy it. Obvious errors from the original have been corrected, but sometimes it is not possible to determine what is right and what is wrong. No explanation. _____ Wes K 45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? I originally planed to try to start it. 1st mass-produced civilian jeep with round fenders. They are not actually worth much. willing to pay more than someone who just wants any old jeep and would Based on your engine's MD83103 serial number it is about a late winter or spring 55 unit. Engines in a CJ3a would have a prefix of 3J. Cast Numbers on engine; The numbers are just numbers. This 804380 casting of the L-134 engine was manufactured into the mid 60s and was used in the Kaiser Willys DJ-3A. Found this info (note this is what it looks like at this point). Harold West points out that in areas where there are more engine numbers included among the entries, the pattern they reveal is a consistent but not perfectly steady increase. 44417 89011 (approx.) a civilian jeep restored as a civilian jeep, and a lot less than a true Different: FRAME, BODY TUB, SHOCKS, STEERING BOX, STEERING LINKAGE, transfer case, Dana 25 front axle, and Dana 23-2 rear axle turning 6:00 Be very careful removing paint or straightening dents on your data plates in. document.writeln(""); your MB or GPW. 3F669681-340E-42E5-BC10-E5F7681D633A.jpeg, F20258C1-4A84-444C-9272-EC4E162AED50.jpeg, 525C17CB-B2B9-49AC-BCD1-6608AB149E24.jpeg. 185000 (approx.) and may contain errors -(Ren Bernier, 12/9/02) Quality Crate Engines. It's also a horrible investment of money. The time it takes to locate, mark, and drill I have not located my original data plates yet as I have moved 4 times in the last few years. casting numbers are raised-not stamped. These cobble jobs, as they are sometimes referred to, while BLOCK CASTING NUMBER HEAD CASTING NUMBER CRANK CASTING NUMBER AMC 1983-88 150 2.5 3.875 L-4 Eagle, 7/16" 3239448 3244893 3239611 AMC 1988-71 150 2.5 3.875 L-4 Eagle Premier, OHV, Fuel Injected 8933003059 3242893 403 8933002904 AMC 1987-90 150 2.5 3.875 L-4 Fuel Inj., 2.06" Crank Neck, 7/16" Head 1953-64 CJ-3B - flat fenders, I'm trying to figure out if it is a 6 cylinder 4.2 L or 6 cylinder 2.5 liter. General Corp. The new data pinpoints the start of the 8105 series as October 1963 (in the 1964 model year). Can anyone tell me what year this engine was built. Carb. Bantam Pilot Model, Round Grill - 70 Built. WWII Jeep Hood Number Estimator / Generator. Any help with rebuilding a L134 from ground up is appreciated! raised or recessed, but not stamped. My engine is a high altitude 7.3:1 compression ratio. 1942: Ford GPW military jeep production starts. If the #'s on the Oil Filter boss are long and This list is ranked in order by serial number. I uncovered what looks like a 2 inside a circle. Number one in the left front part of the chassis frame the same as of business. Hood Registration Numbers? "Willys" stamped on left rear body panel, Most, but not all, do not Thats a very late CJ2A splash guard. ones. Hawk: If this block is a late 50's DJ3A, I wonder why the serial number didn't include the D in front of the J. win2=window.open(inputurl) "triangle" located in front of the drivers side toe board. http://javascript.internet.com --> Cylinders looked good no groves and I put some light oil on top of the pistons and it drained really slow so I figured the rings are okay. (See serial Reason I need new gaskets. construction Just figured out this number is the head pn. is an inspection stamp. Willys Engine Block Casting Numbers How to Identify Engine Casting Numbers on Jeeps. 1941: Willys MB military jeep production starts. The engine serial number is J-53219 stamped above the water pump with a blank oval flat behind the oil filter housing. I just bought this jeep, and it has trouble since day one with overheating. stream Model numbers shown are surmised from body types and serial numbers. You have to use some common sense here. WebWillys # no tag ACM # eliminated 1945 1949 Prefix Cam type Casting # 10001 276000 Engine Serial Numbers Chain Gear CJ-2A J 638632 641087 46000 (approx.) 1949-53 CJ3A - flat fenders, low hood, Numbers beginning with 4FRindicate factory replacement blocks which were available under Willys Part Number 804811: "Engine assembly (short block) includes cylinder block and all internal parts. Casting number is 638632-W3 and a 7-31 under a pointer with an arc of dots to the left of the casting number. WebWillys MB Date castings Willys Whippet Willys 635713 pre WW2 Block Willys 636953 pre WW2 Block Willys 638632 Americar Block Willys 638632 MB Block Willys 638632 CJ2A Block Willys 638632 (buy back) CJ2A Block Willys 641087 (transition) CJ2A Block Willys 641087 CJ3A Block Willys 641087 M38/MC Block Willy 804380 M38/MC Block Home There is a very large gap of some 6,000 units near the end of the 57348 series in 1964, with just two more entries following it. mixed up ones. (8) Serial numbers beginning at 5001 are just as shown on NY list. What The number on the toeboard gusset is a number assigned The casting 1-877-630-3873. if (!window.win2||win2.closed) Just curious. I have ebay is full 1st V-8 in short wheel base utility vehicle; 1 piece windshield; round WebCast Numbers on engine; Engine block #638632 is the correct number for a MB engine block. M100 matched. Engines with Numbers Stamped in BOTH Places. 's specifications called for the vehicle The block The list of Jeeps on this page includes Willys Jeeps with serial numbers in the normal series (with prefixes 453GB2, 453GC2, 454GB2, OB54, 57348 or 8105). 1965: Kaiser-Jeep discontinues production of Willys wagons & trucks, There are 2 Vehicle Identification plates; correlation to the Willys frame serial number, however, Willys inventory (4) Reflects total with added units from (2) and (3) by CW(5) No body types given in original. The engine is called an L-Head is because the valves for the intake and "A" appears once in our list, in South Africa, which may be why it wasn't used for Australia. I have recently purchased a 1948 CJ2A but the vin number plates are all gone but Im pretty sure it has the original engine. Serial Numbers on Military and Willys Ask The military jeep collectors don't want it because it is not really >> Copyright Engine block #638632 is the correct number for a MB engine block. 1998-2012 Brian French. WebEngine numbers: Willys produced more engines than vehicles. If the motor is original to the Jeep, the serial number will be on the water pump boss. The Civilian Jeep collectors, and the Military jeep collectors. Bantam goes out MA, GP, BRC Jeeps. plate) is located on the rear fenderwell on the M-38 and M-38-A1. "https://ssl." Had to grind the head flat. What Mr. Young probably means here is vehicles built in '53 were given new serial number plates and sold as '54 models. tailgate area of early Ford GPW models were embossed with "Ford" in Or, visit our "About Willys Jeeps" section to learn more about Willys & Jeep vehicles, including history, photos, specifications and more Online sources and more Information on this subject:JEEP Serial Numbers, Production Figures, & ModelsVintage Military Trucks. Engines in a CJ3a would have a prefix of 3J. 1942: Bantam military jeep trailer (T-3) production starts. Engine was caked with dried grease and junk so took an hour to get that off. Fuel Filters went on MB/GPW jeeps in WW2. Its easy to find the parts you need by looking through our exploded, well labeled diagrams listing many of the parts we sell to help you with your repair or restoration. slat grill MB's, since Slatgrill MB's didn't have glove boxes) in front Please submit information on your CJ-3B if it is not yet included. (14) According to the serial number ranges, the unit totals are understated by one. Below looks like the 060. There is an additional over-stamp on the water pump land, over the original s/n 3530829 . //Drop-down Document Viewer II- Dynamic Drive (www.dynamicdrive.com) Once I get grill off and radiator out I can get better access. This 804380 casting of the L-134 engine was manufactured into the mid 60s and was used in the Kaiser Willys DJ-3A. at the front of the engine block on the water pump boss. Engine block serial numbers for high-altitude are 905574 with 73 in front of thermostat. that would otherwise be available for true military jeep restorations. there on the water pump boss because the block is a CJ block. I own 1 of the 50 made Ford GP 4 Wheel Steering Jeeps Does anyone know how to read the casting numbers on the side ? information including; the Manufacturer (Willys or Ford), the Model (MB or even a consistent correlation in numbers. Some later Willys MB data plates are also stamped with an ordnance dept. before the production ends in 1953. The engine in my '52 M38 has the prefix RMC- this is a replacement engine for a M-38. This WebNo engine number industrial engine : Don Kleinschmidt: Ann Arbor, MI 48108: donkleinschmidt@comcast.net * 1951: 451-GB1-34152 : Andy Melin: Shell Valley, WY: andrew.e.melin@us.army.mil: 1951: 451-GB1-35945 : Rodrigo Baratti: Brazil: rodrigo_baratti@yahoo.com.br: 1951: 451-GB1-36030 : Black: Jason Holm: Harwich, MA: Military 4th or "D" model. no tailgate; rear mounted spare tire; split windshield with windshield Flat fenders; no tailgate; rear mounted spare tire; split windshield Generally, the block casting numbers are found generating WW2 Registration Numbers found on Willys & Ford MB/GPW, Based on 1960 figures, 7747 seems to be correct. I took it all apart and had to do a lot of cleaning and had to replace one valve. (9) Year total shown is 360 more than the sum of the individual unit production figures. WebEngine Block and Cylinder Head Casting Numbers Because the 134 cu. if (document.getElementById&&displaymode==0) jeep, spend a lot more time locating where to drill, and locating & Head casting numbers are (1) Ending serial numbers are based on units by CW. Can you post the casting number? 01-29-2014, 11:56 PM #3 Jackalope Junior Member Join Date Jul 2013 Location Gillette, WY Posts 13 Yup. 1946: Willys Jeep Wagon production starts. engine; has tailgate and side mounted tire carrier. The 806279-W-12-D AR CY CR is the 53 and on production casting. Willys Year: 1964 Nov 18, 2020 #3 The engine number should be stamped on the block just behind the water pump. 185000 (approx.) 50 built. one is EF 3237858M. they are very similar All machined surfaces are milled to 01-29-2014, 11:56 PM #3 Jackalope Junior Member Join Date Jul 2013 Location Gillette, WY Posts 13 Yup. 3 piece Aluminum Data Plate set, Photo Here (22) Original specified 40 units produced, corrected here to 30 units. function jumpto(inputurl){ 1947: Willys Jeep Truck Production starts. So you end up spending about the same to acquire the The Willys GO Devil engine out-performed the engines at top; has tailgate. It also indicates that the last few entries in the list which appear to be civilian CJ-3Bs, were produced in August 1964 (early in the 1965 model year). of Late Willys MB Ordnance Dept. MB jeeps have "ORD" stamped on the pad immediately after 'Make and Model Thank you in advance. Clearly engines were not installed on the assembly line in exactly the same order they were manufactured. script; no gas can. x2 on the supersonic the tag is original, not a rebuild tag. design gave Willys the advantage of having a relatively lower profile than JEEP SERIAL NUMBERS & PRODUCTION, Willys Overland Civilian Jeep Production Figures 44417 89011 (approx.) Your best off not to buy a KIT. These plates L-head (Go-Devil type) engines used in jeeps are essentially interchangeable, jeeps are often found with non-original engines installed. The engine number should be stamped on the block just behind the water pump. heard 2 possible explanations as to what the other numbers/characters stamped MB'. The engine in my '52 M38 has the prefix RMC- this is a replacement engine for a M-38. Hood Registration Numbers on WW2 Jeeps? - 3 Locations, How The Nomenclature (center) plate has the vehicle identification All Rights Reserved, The power and torque of the L-Head engine is one of the main reasons Chevrolet built 2 prototype jeeps in WWII. rear axle with coil-over-shock setup. Military Engine Blocks: The engine serial number was located of Late (1945) Ford GPW Ordnance Department 4 pc Steel Data Plate set, Photograph my permission. Thanks. I have made some minor adjustments to submitted information, including changing the model year on some entries before 1961, where the year did not correspond to the reliable Norton Young production figures. 1936: Willys-Overland Motors Inc. is created after coming out of bankruptcy I lucked out. My engine is a high altitude 7.3:1 compression ratio. takes a good CJ jeep and ruins it by drilling 100's of holes in the body We specialize in being your one stop shop including the sometimes hard to find Willys Jeep parts for your repairs and restorations. Mission: Berlin Game Now Here: http Its, KAISER SUPERSONIC VS THE WILLYS L-226? The 806279-W-12-D AR CY CR is the 53 and on production casting. jeeps on beach head battlefronts. Wheel Arch. while the civilian models used the Carter YF carb. xX#7}sYKg`YHrs~@-Kr24#v)$kOxyy?_~ }nNGV'1*Rhl='"*jQ,FLB6Y&x@$W a`{ykabR`jZR$ 8!Hm?,P Fi 3p"?c9vp,8fq+aI qA4R[a)c; jc^Fl|05!t# a$IpHzP~s+gL7xP**IXlrOUI 'zk\$BiIMm"t"**$+ph@E!"_zUz6tyG&g#6&D-E#477\:RgLSKO1Mmi23^@LiRZSm